"...'it's not science, it's pseudoscience.' And that's a false dichotomy. I mean, that's new. They've just decided that that's the case in the last few decades. But that's not how science was before. The natural sciences were philosophy and science."
-- Mona Sobhani
Catch the full episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMcLKPbOmE8